bouturage Big bud - probleme - pourissement

par **player1** » 07 Mai 2007, 08:04

hello

j'ai un pb de pourrissement des clones de big bud - elles sont sous serre dans de la laine de roche sous néon.

C'est une variétée difficile a bouturer parait il, avez vous réussi a en faire des clones ?

Sous qu'elles conditions ?

par **|l|l|l||l|l|l|** » 07 Mai 2007, 11:35

salut player1,

je n'ai pas constaté de difficulté particuliere pour bouturer cette variété aussi bien en LDR qu'en terre

si tu as un pourrissement c'est que ta ventilation n'est pas suffisante...laisse bien circuler l'air dans ta serre,ouvres la de tps en tps ou laisse les events ouverts

par **kimon** » 07 Mai 2007, 11:52

Les tiges deviennent-elles molles ?

par **player1** » 07 Mai 2007, 17:58

oui, la partie dans la LDr devient toute molle ... :-(

oki je vais faire ça

par **vol** » 07 Mai 2007, 18:40

t'as utilise du clonex?
si tu a baisse le ph de la ldr....ca peut venir d'un ph bien trops acide.

par **player1** » 07 Mai 2007, 19:05

oui du clonex, oui j'ai baisser le ph, a 5 vers là. je laisserais a 8 dans ce cas ...

pourtant la NL a bien enracinée ...

la big bug est réputée être difficile a enracinée...

CLONING

Cloning is asexual reproduction. Cuttings are taken from a mother weed plant in vegatative growth, and rooted in hydroponic medium to be grown as a separate weed plant. The offspring will be weed plants that are identical to the parent weed plant.
Cloning preserves the character of your favorite weed plant. Cloning can make an ocean of green out of a single weed plant, so it is a powerful tool for growing large crops, and will fill a closet quickly with your favorite genetics. When you find the Big Bud plant you want to be your “buddy” for the rest of your life, you can keep that weed plant’s genetic character alive for decades and pass it on to your children’s children. Propagate and share it with others, to keep a copy, should your own line die out. A clone can be taken from a clone at least 20 times, and probably more, so don’t worry about myths of reduced vigor. Many reports indicate it’s not a problem.
Cloning will open you to the risk of a fungus or pests wiping out the whole crop, so it’s important to pick weed plants that exhibit great resistance to fungus and pests. Pick the weed plant you feel will be the most reliable to reproduce in large scale, based on health, growth rate, resistance to pests, and potency. The quality of the high, and the type of buzz you get will be a very important determining factor.
Take cuttings for clones before you move weed plants from vegetative grow area to the flowering area. Low branches are cut to increase air circulation under the green canopy. Rooted clones are moved to the vegetative growth area, and new clones are started in the cloning area using the low branch cuttings. Each cycle of growth will take from 4-8 weeks, so you can constantly be growing in 3 stages, and harvesting every 6-8 weeks.
Some types of weed plants are more difficult to clone than others. Big Bud is reported to not clone very well. One of my favorite weed plants, BIG BUD is the most amazing pot I ever smoked, but it is hard as hell to clone. What a challenge! I noticed other varieties that were rooting much quicker, but it was the stone I was after! Once you find the psychoactive, almost hallucinogenic properties of some Indica/Sativa hybrids, you never want to smoke a pure Indica again. Indica is however, great medicinally, so I like to grow a few pure strains too.
If a weed plant is harvested, you can sample it, and decide if you want to clone it. Pick your favorite 2 or 3 distinctly different types of weed plants to clone, based on trying the harvested weed plants. The weed plants you want to clone can be regenerated by putting them in constant light. In a few weeks, you will have many vegetative cuttings available for cloning and preserving your favorite weed plants. Always keep a mother weed plant in vegatative mode for any strain you want to keep alive. If you flower all your clones, you may end up killing off a strain if you don’t have any weed plant devoted to being a mother. I killed off a sacred strain accidentally this way; my harvested weed plants failed to regenerate and the strain would have died completely had not previously igven it to friends to grow it as well. I was in luck, and a buddy set me up with another clone of this strain to grow as a mother weed plant for a new crop of clones.
After two months, any marijuana weed plant can be cloned. Flowering weed plants can be cloned, but the procedure may take considerably longer. Its best to wait, and regenerate vegetatively weed plants that have been harvested. A single regenerated/harvested weed plant can generate hundreds of cuttings. Before taking cuttings, starve the weed plant for nitrogen for a week at least, so that the weed plant is not extreamly green, as this will make rooting take longer. Take cuttings from the bottom 1/3 of the Big Bud plant, when doing ordinary pruning. Cut young growth tips from a vegetative stage, mature weed plant 3-5 inches long with a stem diameter 1/5-1/10 inch. Cut with a sterile razor blade or X-acto knife (flamed) and immerse the cut end of the clone into a tub of distilled water mixed with ¼ tspn Peters 5-50-17 per gallon. Next, cut the bottom .2 inch off the end while it is submerged, using a diagonal cut. Remove the clone from the tub and dip into a liquid cloning solution following instructions on the label. Dust with RootToneF and place in cloning tray or medium. Flowering weed plants can be cloned too, but may take longer, and may not have as high a success rate.
Cloning goes quickest with the liquid rooting solutions, in a warmed, aerated tray, with subdued lighting and high humidity. Placing cuttings into 1” rockwool cubes in a covered tray works great too. In a closet, you can make space above the grow area so that the heat of the lamp warms the tray (passive collecting) and spare the expense and hassle of the aquarium heater ($24) or agricultural heating pad w/ thermostat (pricey). A double 4” fluorescent lamp will be perfect. Leave lamps on for 24 hours a day. Cuttings should root in 2-3 weeks.
I found only one liquid rooting hormone solution that was not over $10. (Olivia’s Gel was $12 for a 1.6 ounce bottle. Geez, what is this stuff, gold?) I found some dipNgrow for $9, considered myself lucky, and got a tray and clear cover for $7. A clear tray cover or greenhouse encloser is needed to bring up humidity to 90% (greenhouse levels). Liquid rooting hormone seems to be much more effective than powders. Some types available are Olivia’s, Woods, and dipNgrow.
Mix a weak cloning solution of high P weed plant food (such as Peter’s 5-50-17), trace elements, and epsom salts and then dip weed plants in rooting solution per instructions on label. All of the above nutrients should be added in extremely small amounts, 25% of what would normally be used on growing Big Budplants. Or use a premade solution such as Olivia’s Rooting Solution. Corn syrup has been reported to supplement the sugars needed by the weed plant during cloning, since it consists of weed plant sugars.
Use a powder fungicide too, like RoottoneF to be sure you don’t spoil the clones with fungus. This is important, since clones and fungus like the conditions you will be creating for good rooting:
mild light
72-80 degrees
high humidity

par **jack1** » 07 Mai 2007, 19:19

en meme temp un copier coller en anglais je vois pas trop laide que ca peut t apporter :roll:

t'embetes pas avec tout ca

par **jack1** » 07 Mai 2007, 19:21

pourquoi tu ne te fabriques pas une bouturette facon chanvri ???

par **vol** » 07 Mai 2007, 20:33

ouais bah,cherche pas plus loin....od de clonex....fait fondre les tiges.....

bouturage en aero....pas de clonex.c'est pas pour faire le reloud....mais c'est tellement simple et tellement efficace.

par **player1** » 21 Jan 2013, 04:12

vous parlez de bouturette aéroponique ?